“Being humble about it, I predict that somewhere around 2025 we'll have this machine [Copernicus] huffing and puffing and producing the data we hoped for.”

Copernicus was not operating or producing data by the end of 2025; TAE's 2025 work centered on its reconfigured 'Norm' machine, and its 2026 communications still describe Copernicus as a future device expected to demonstrate net-energy viability later this decade.